Abundance - Depth Psychology Alliance2024-03-29T02:09:04Zhttps://depthpsychologyalliance.com/group/new-global-mythology/forum/topics/feed/tag/AbundanceMy Quick Permie Chat with Geoff Lawton, Permaculture Educator and Businessman by Willi Paul, Planetshifter.com Magazinehttps://depthpsychologyalliance.com/group/new-global-mythology/forum/topics/my-quick-permie-chat-with-geoff-lawton-permaculture-educator-and2015-03-09T02:54:26.000Z2015-03-09T02:54:26.000ZWilli Paulhttps://depthpsychologyalliance.com/members/WilliPaul<div><p></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><span class="font-size-3">My Quick Permie Chat with <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.geofflawton.com/sq/15449-geoff-lawton" target="”blank”">Geoff Lawton</a>, Permaculture Educator and Businessman by Willi Paul, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.planetshifter.com/node/2250" target="”blank”">Planetshifter.com Magazine</a></span></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span class="font-size-3">Geoff is Managing Director of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://permaculturenews.org/" target="”blank”">The Permaculture Research Institute</a>, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.permacultureconsultants.com/" target="”blank”">Permaculture Sustainability Consulting</a>, and <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.geofflawton.com/sq/15449-geoff-lawton" target="”blank”">GeoffLawton.com</a></span></p>
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<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>I recently sent Mr. Lawton some questions via LinkedIn. Here is the Q & A. -</strong></span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> The classic landfill on the outskirt of town. Rising higher and higher. Leaching chemicals. How can permaculture values revitalize this mess?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> We can harvest some gas from these site and we can lock them up into forest planting.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> What do you mean: “lock them up into forest planting?“</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> Yes just that.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> What is your experience with fracking? Have you repaired toxic aquifers?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> We have helped protest fracking. If we installed enough water harvesting aquifer re-charge earthworks at the surface we can add continuous downward pressure on the aquifers.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> Cool. Please give us a URL to a fracking protest that you participated in.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> You look it up on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://permaculturenews.org/PCnews.org" target="”blank”">permaculturenews.org</a></span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> One of my interests is new community rituals that re-connect community with the sacred. Two such rituals are sharing expos and fall harvests. How do you see old and new rituals?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> We work with traditional tribal people on permaculture aid work projects where processes and protocol give people the ability to manage the inevitable dramas of life in a unified and predictable way.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> OK. So, in general, you believe that traditional tribal people do not practice rituals?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> I said what I said - please read it.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> After the “swales and cob benches” are done, driven by low-tech design principles, permaculture comes down to love to me. How do you express love for the land and your clients?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> Appreciation of natural abundance in beautiful form.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> Is there any news on permaculture-driven alternative medicines that you know of?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> Yes we have a large plant data base on alternative medicines through our long-term working partnership with the late <a rel="nofollow" href="http://herbs-to-use.com/herbs-to-use.html" target="”blank”">Isabel Shipard</a>.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> Since my PDC, I find myself integrating other ideas and values with permaculture, like mythology and alchemy. Do you incorporate other things into your practice that are outside of permaculture? If so, why?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> We stick to proven science and not included meta-physics.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> That seems to be the standard permaculture line. But do you see a place for a personal spiritual connection to land design?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> Only if you keep it personal and do not teach it.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> Can permaculturists run and win local governmental offices? What is your political commitment(s) to date?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> No and none.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> That is a short answer, Mr. Lawton! Why can’t permies run and win local governmental offices?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> I have no political commitments. Sorry I am very busy with many things and may have read your question too quickly. So yes they can but I believe it is a waste of time to enter into a corrupt system and expect to be able to change it from within.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> Permaculture doesn’t advocate storing food and weapons in a bomb shelter! But what are the main differences between permaculture and survivalists? Have you taught students from the survivalist camp?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> Yes we consult and design for survivalists.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> Please name a specific project and explain how your consultations differ?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/public-appearances" target="”blank’">Jack Spirko</a> is my biggest connection in recent years, I have (worked with the) Y2K crowd …, they are really just precise designs with survival oriented design elements.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> Can you share any permaculture inspired games, songs, and myths?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> We do haste great participation parties at the end of PDC's.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> California is in a long-term drought. How would your firm go about producing a sustainable solution?</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> Good permaculture design solutions.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>WP:</strong> Please offer up one specific solution to the CA drought and give us details.</span></p>
<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>GL:</strong> N/A</span></p>
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<p><span class="font-size-3"><strong>Other permaculture interviews by Willi -</strong></span></p>
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