Opening comments and discussion questions:

Understanding the Rising Sign.  Each of us has a Natal Mask, or persona, based upon the date, time, and place of birth. But this persona also progresses, or evolves, over time. As we grow older, each new progressed Mask affects us for several decades. Each new Mask will bring out different qualities and talents latent in the Natal chart, as it slowly moves into contact with Natal planets and points, such as the Midheaven (10th House cusp), the Natal Rising Sign, and the Nodes. Others may notice a difference in our persona.

Example:The Natal Mask. The outside world quickly picks up on the Natal Rising Sign. People respond to it when they first meet us.  Air and Fire are the extraverted Elements, Earth and Water introverted.  If we have Air Rising-- Gemini, Libra, or Aquarius—for instance, we usually seem quite sociable at first meeting. But suppose our Natal Sun and Moon are in introverted Elements. Then, the person we just met at the party will discover the rest of our personality, the more introverted planets, later. He may be surprised that hidden depths lie that beneath the fun-loving Air Mask!  Or, if we have a high percentage of Water planets, he‘ll discover we’re moodier than he expected.

The Instinctual and Spiritual Rulers:

                        The instinctual (aka mundane) ruler of the Rising Sign is easier to identify than    the spiritual.  It's called instinctual because it often includes 1) physical attributes: Mars/   Aries: energy,   passion, adrenalin, coordination, reflexes, survival instincts/ fight or flight response, competitive drive,  anger, aggressive/ assertive responses.

                         Or 2) emotional attributes. For instance, Moon/Cancer: nurturing,  family bonds, receptivity, memories, the stomach, (including the ability to "stomach life," ) imagination; Venus/ Libra:  romance, beauty, aesthetics, lofty ideals, distinguishing the "I" from the "We," strong  sense of justice/fairness.)            


                        The esoteric (aka spiritual) ruler's influence is less concrete, less easy to recognize.  It involves qualities like generosity (Jupiter), lovingkindness (Venus),  Saturn/Capricorn: our dharma or duty to the larger community. People who have a positive connection with the spiritual ruler of their Rising Sign seem happier.


      Growing into the Rising Sign: Joe integrates Natal Mars


Joe was born with his Rising Sign in early Aries. But Mars, his only Aries planet and his instinctual ruler, was in the very last degree of Aries, at the bottom of his Identity House (First House.)


It took the Progressed Ascendant 29 years to align with Joe’s Mars. When the conjunction occurred, Joe was attending his brother’s wedding in his home town.  Beth, a girl he’d really liked years ago, was there.  She watched him in an animated discussion with several older men. Not only were they interested in Joe’s opinions, he’d actually won them over to his viewpoint.


 “I thought Joe was a wimp in high school, but now he’s so confidant and enthusiastic, maybe I should have gone to the prom with him.”   Beth was impressed. Joe got her phone number. Two years later, as his Progressed Ascendant entered Taurus and contacted Venus- in- Taurus in his Second House (finances) Joe received a promotion. He also decided to ask Beth to marry him.


(There are other factors involved in the timing, like transiting Saturn, but our focus here is on Joe’s enhanced magnetism, which Beth felt.)

Discussion:  Question One:  has anyone ever had, or known someone who had, an experience of “growing into” the planets in their Identity House?  Or of progressing from Fire to Earth, like Joe, and feeling grounded, ready to “settle down” and marry?


 Question Two:  How do the instinctual ruler and the spiritual ruler of Aries work together? Suggested reading:  pp 11-17, including  footnote 13, on Annie Besant’s greatest regret.   


Aries Rising John Lennon saw his songs as “postcards to the universe.” As a young woman, Annie Besant practiced making speeches in her husband’s church while pretending she went there to practice the organ as it was considered unseemly for women to speak in church. 


For some Aries Rising people, Mars’ passion for an activity or cause and Mercury’s communication skills blend early. Fire Rising is in a hurry to get on with life and share their gifts with others.


Intermediate and advanced students may want to review the two horoscopes at, Astrodata.  Do you think life is any   easier with a contact between the two rulers, however difficult, (Besant’s chart) or with no major contact at all? (Lennon’s.)  


Or, you may prefer to discuss Pearl Buck or Henry Miller. What was their Aries/Mars journey like? Risk-taking?  Pioneering? Adventure? Heroism/Warrior Archetype?  Their Aries/Mercury journey?  The messages they brought the world?


Example Two: The Progressed Mask in the Second Half of Life, for participants over 50. 


Question 1: Have you ever encountered an old friend, someone you hadn’t seen in a very long time and watched the person’s face light up with joy? Perhaps they greeted you with,” you’ve changed a lot, but I knew right away it was you!”  Have you ever received validation from the outer world that you’ve grown not just older, but that somehow the new, mature, you is an improvement on the “old you?”    For Aries Rising, they could be picking up on the Wisdom of Athena, guide to courageous heroes.  Spirit, forever young, is still there to connect with the old friend.


 Discussion Question 2:

If you have Aries Rising, or know someone over 59  who does, you/he/she have already progressed through one or more Signs, Elements and Modes, you may want to consider the various Masks  worn while moving though life. Which ones did you enjoy the most?


The professional image?  The ambitious Warrior?  The Lover (polar opposite of the Warrior)? The Mask of responsible, caring parent or loving grandparent?


 By hindsight, which Mask cycles seemed more difficult?  Easier? The peaceful warrior Mask, perhaps? (Annie Besant wrote at the end of her life, “Theosophy brought me peace.”)


For  Advanced Students of Astrology:

Which of your Natal planets, if any, did the Progressed Rising Sign contact from each new Ascendant Sign?

Did the progression bring out interests latent in the Natal Chart?

What type of person seems attracted to your progressed Seventh House Cusp? (The polarity of the progressed Ascendant Sign is the progressed Seventh House cusp Sign.  Aries/Libra will shift to Taurus/Scorpio then, in the next cycle, Gemini/Sagittarius.)  

Does the same type of person (Element, Mode) who appealed to you in your twenties still appeal as much? 

The Second Progressed Sign usually feels more comfortable (familiar) than the first as the Elements are more compatible. Introverted Rising Signs remark, “I feel like my old self again, I’m craving more alone time,” while extraverted Natal Ascendants feel more sociable.


Question 3: In the second half of life, did you return to an activity that you loved as a child?  Carl G. Jung, for instance, spent hours sorting stones as a boy, then, in adulthood, he spent years building Bollingen Tower. Is there a process, an equivalent of Jung’s “stone play,” that brings you joy?

Perhaps it's an activity you share with your grandchildren?

Examples:  Some people who wrote for their high school newspaper or college magazine in youth returned to writing after midlife as bloggers, short story writers, poets, novelists, memoirists. Others, who were high school athletes, returned to their favorite sport as coaches in retirement. Many who loved drama in high school developed an interest in community theater, as patrons or as volunteers.

For Mars-ruled Aries’, joie de vivre and continued good health is related to staying active. It’s important not to lose touch with one’s instincts! After midlife, Aries Rising needs safe, age-appropriate exercise hobby to keep their instinctual rule, engaged in life.


However, if there are many Water and/or Earth planets in the horoscope, a prolonged sedentary period, a time of grieving or healing from surgery, can affect the state of mind, as well as muscle tone, coordination and reflexes. As soon as possible, Aries should return to the golf course or other favored physical activity!


The Aries Treasure story, the Golden Fleece, has many important nuances for both the First and Second Half of Life. It will be discussed in the teleseminar February 29, in the context of Uranus’ ingress into Aries for the new 7-year cycle. What new beginnings lay ahead for Aries Rising?  For the rest of us in our “Aries House?”

 If you’re participating in the teleseminar, please read the story, “Jason and the Dragons-Teeth Warriors,” (pp. 17-21)  by the end of February.

If you don’t already have a copy of your Natal horoscope, you may wish to order one and locate your Aries House cusp beforehand.


Taurus Rising:  Inner and Outer Resourcefulness


The words “resources” and “resourcefulness” usually bring to mind financial wherewithal, the most common association for Taurus/Venus/Second House Archetype. At the instinctual level, it’s about financial survival. More than any other Ascendant, Taurus Rising is concerned with setting aside funds to “fall back on” in a crisis.


When astrologers think of Taurus talents, toften their first association is business intuition, like that of newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst. His Ascendant was enhanced by 50% of his planets in the Earth Element.  Hearst took over his father’s newspaper business in his teens. Though many Taurus Rising people work in the “family business,” few take on full responsibility for it at such a young age.  When Taurus invests too much energy gaining financial security and neglects other areas of life, the persona comes across as materialistic, like eaHearstHearst’s. He was the Archetypal Tycoon.

Novelist Herman Melville is another example of Taurus Rising born into a wealthy family that fell into poverty after the death of relative. (Both charts are available on, astrodata.) A sudden plunge into poverty will bring out the survival instinct early in life.  When his wealthy grandfather died, leaving them almost nothing, Melville’s family lost social status as well as wealth. Talented young Herman was unable to enroll in an Ivy League school with his friends. He surrendered his social connections the day he signed on as a cabin boy, but his whaling ship experience would become the material for Moby Dick.

The Venus Rulership: Aphrodite and her retinue, the Muses foster creative imagination, musical, artistic and storytelling abilities. Taurus is about much more than hard work and professional success. We’ll return to this theme later. 

First, the Taurus Rising Treasure Story.  

Treasure Discussion 1: Please read the Magic Beans story, pp. 36-40.

Question 1:

What is the Treasure in this story? Is the meaning of treasure dreams or fairy tales always literal, or is it sometimes symbolic?

What might the older couple in this story have learned had they progressed consciously through Gemini and Cancer? (pp. 41-42.)  (Elements, Modes, Ruling planets.)

Or,  question 2 : Personal reflection: If you’ve ever had a treasure dream, or a series of them, you might want to comment on what the dream or series meant to you, either at the time or later, by hindsight. Especially if you have Taurus or another Earth Sign Rising! If this doesn’t fit, please move on to the next question.

Anna Freud had Taurus Rising Ascendant and was extremely practical. She grew up while her father was discussing and formalizing his theories. Then she entered the “family business” as a child psychologist. Her first innovative book before was published in her twenties.  By her 70’s, others in her field considered her an international treasure. She had a wealth of knowledge drawn from her unique experience working with traumatized children who were uprooted in the Second World War.

 During a speaking tour in the United States, a member of the audience challenged her, “what you just said, Miss Freud, is only common sense.” 

Astonished, Anna replied, “But there’s nothing common about common sense!”

At my in-person workshops, two Taurus Rising participants,( both coincidentally, social workers,) had the same “take” on Anna’s remark: “that’s it exactly!” and, “she’s absolutely right! It’s that simple! People really overcomplicate decision-making by wasting time and rationalizing, then they finally do what they wanted to do in the first place.”

Question 3, The Collective. What do you think? What might Miss Freud’s insight mean to us now, as Jupiter is about to leave Taurus. Might her Taurus Rising insight have special meaning (larger implications) for at this moment in time, while we’re recovering from the Boom and the Bust?

Question 4, Creativity.  Aphrodite ( Venus) is associated with the Muses, the patrons of music , the arts, and different forms of storytelling such as poetry and plays.  It may come as no surprise to find close, positive contacts from Venus to the Rising Sign degree in Bonnie Raitt and Herman Melville’s charts. (His is a sextile from Venus –in-Cancer, hers a trine from Venus- in-Capricorn.) However, not all successful or creative Taurus Rising people will have an easy contact, or any contact at all from Venus to the Ascendant or First House planets.

One of the other creative examples has no close Venus contact, but does have a Pisces Moon and three other Water planets. Could you guess which one?  Can you guess which one has 3 Taurus planets, 2 Virgo planets, and Venus- in- Gemini in the First House? (Clue: as teenager, his progressed Ascendant aligned with his Natal Gemini Ruler, influencing his choice of profession.)

Questions 5-6, For Astrologers and Astrology Students:  The Transit Cycle:  Jupiter, the planet of generosity, “thinking big,” expanding and improving our lives through higher education, relocating and/or travel is now moving through Taurus (the First or Second Houses for people with this Ascendant.)

Do you think Taurus Rising people will invest as much in gilding the Mask (House 1) or in their business (House 2) as they did in past Jupiter cycles, which didn’t coincide with an economic Bust and a prolonged recovery? 

For those who don’t have Taurus Rising, is there a practical, common sense approach to the issues of the House that Jupiter is now transiting in your Natal chart?  (The House with Taurus on the cusp.)

Example: if Jupiter is passing through Taurus in your 4th. House, you may feel an impulse to expand, to sell your home and purchase a larger, more expensive house in a better neighborhood.  But is this really practical right now?  Older people may feel an impulse to sell their home and re-locate, retiring out-of-state. Regardless of our ages, if we cannot follow through on these Jupiter impulses now, can we think of alternative Jupiter/Fourth House options to pursue?


 Please read, “The Esoteric Ruler,” “The Second Half of Life” and “Progressions for Taurus Rising,” pp. 34-43.

      The Esoteric Ruler and  progressed cycle for Taurus Rising

The spiritual ruler of Taurus is Vulcan-Haephestus. Taurus Rising is usually content to “stay in the same place.” Maintaining the status quo is usually viewed as important to the Tauran sense of security.

Though Fixed Earth is the most Fixed of the 12 Rising Signs, a powerfully-placed Mars, several Fire Sun planets, or a Fire Sun Sign will contribute a sense of adventure. Air planets will provide a sense of wonder and curiosity; an impulse to keep learning as they grow older.

With Scorpio on the Seventh House Cusp, relationships put Taurus through many changes. Mars is one of the rulers of the marriage house cusp; an energetic Aries or Scorpio Sun Sign Spouse (Mars-Ruled person) will prod, stimulate, and challenge Taurus.

The biggest changes, though, seem to come from Haephestes’ alchemical forge, where Taurus Rising, the Irresistible Force, meets the Immovable Object. I understood this process much better after visiting Pompeii and observing the effects of the volcano.  I felt a greater sympathy for my Taurus Rising friends and clients.

After the Vulcan meltdown, awareness, growth, and openness to change come more easily. However, the Vulcan process may take years to assimilate.

Question 7: Contentment in the Second Half of Life.

Which of our examples said to D.H. Lawrence, “I’m content here at home in my job as a customs inspector; I have no desire to travel? (In spite of 3 Sagittarian planets in the 8th House.) In this person’s mid 70s, the progressed Ascendant  made two harmonious contacts: it aligned with Venus-in-Cancer and sextiled the Ascendant degree.  We can understand Taurus Rising’s contentment at home.

Question 8: Would we have Moby Dick, Anna Freud’s unique insights into child psychology, or Toni Morrison’s marvelous novels, had circumstances in the outer world not suddenly and dramatically changed around the authors? Suppose life had continued going along for them as they’d hoped and expected?

Questions 9-10, “The Times, They are a-Changin’.” At the end of the 20th Century, former president Clinton remarked that in the near future, Americans can expect to change careers at least once during the course of their lifetime, given globalization and rapid changes in the world economy.  For some professions, this prediction seems to be coming true already. This challenge was not welcomed as good news by Taurus Rising or other Fixed Sun and Rising Signs, who’d spent years acquiring, or “investing in” their credentials. (The Mutable reaction inclined towards, “oh, good. I’m already bored with what I’m doing.)  

Would it help career counselors and/or life coaches to know that every Fixed Ascendant progresses first through a Mutable Sign, then, later in life, through a Cardinal Sign? And more specifically, might this knowledge be useful if their client’s progressed Ascendant was about to change Signs/Elements/Modes, or contact a Natal planet?

Are the Fixed Rising Signs, especially Fixed Earth, likely to become “resources” in their community during the Cardinal Cycle?( Fixity has staying power; Taurus Rising tends to stay in the same community and/or remain in the same or a related field. Anna Freud was content in Vienna, and might have spent her entire life there, had the War not intervened.)


When you finish, please begin reading Gemini Rising, pp. 48-60.


You need to be a member of Depth Psychology Alliance to add comments!

Join Depth Psychology Alliance

Email me when people reply –


  • Kathleen, I use Solar Fire and attempted to do a progression.  And I am having trouble!  Since I am 79 years old, it seems to me I should add 79 degrees to the original ascendant, 8 Virgo, which would bring me to 19 Sag.  But when I run the secondary progression, I am getting a mid Scorpio ascendant. 


    Can you help me get on the "right page".?


      Hi, Jo,

      If your program have a Solar Arc option, I'd use that.

       If you add your a current age to the Rising Sign, it won't come out as well. The symbolism is " a year per degree," but the minutes also add up over long periods of time

      It's like putting your pocket change in a jar for decades, if you did that you'd end up with extra dollars.  In the same way, the minutes add up to extra degrees. It's also possible that you encounted an Intercept over time. 

      We won't get into those this month, but Joanne Wickenburg, the expert onthose, has an excellent book out the topic.

       She used to offer a correspondence course on transits and progressions but I don't know if she still does.

    • Thanks, that's helpful.  I figured it out and the timing of the transits do vary considerably, by roughly 6 months every 30 years in my case.  Knowing that in 22 months my progressed Asc moves from Scorpio to Sag is a major new awareness.  Despite Scorpio sextiling my Virgo rising, resulting in a lot of understanding of transformation, I am quite drawn to Sag where my Mercury ruler trines Moon Uranus in Aries.  Fire sounds like fun!


      Also, here's another say that the mood of the progressed ascendant is very connected to the first natal planet it contacts.  In my case, I have three planets in three different signs...Neptune 9-53 Virgo, Venus 9:48 Libra and Mercury 9:44 Sag all within minutes of the same degree.  I am assuming that at each progression, the same three energies are influencing the ascendant simultaneously.  Data is 12:55 am November 10, 1932, Portland, Oregon. 


      On the other hand, it occurs to me that Neptune conjunct Asc and Mercury square Asc would have been prominent the first 22 years; then in the next 29+ Venus conj and Mercury sextile would be strongest; the current ascendant would be strongest with Neptune (a sextile).  The current period has had a strong spiritual emphasis.  And if all that is true, when the Rising Sign moves into Sag, the emphasis will be Mercury conj and Neptune square...


      If I am understanding correctly,  the material you present certainly increases the depth of my readings which emphasize the rising sign together with the north node as the focus of a client's life can see the development of character and issues over the years.

    • Thank you for those comments, Yes, you've got it!

      I'm glad this is helpful.

      True, tight Natal conjunctions involving two or three planets makes understanding the tone for the new cycle more confusing. Especially with the planets all in the same degree!

      Many new desires would surface quickly, according the nature of the Natal planets and that of the new progressed Sign. Hopefully, your client won't try to act on them all at once! If she were a shopoholic, for instance, and the Ascendant's first contact was to a Jupiter/Venus conjunction, you might need to mention she need to be aware of what all those hours on E-Bay could do to her credit score! If the conjunction contacted was in the First House or the health house, you might want to mention she needs to keep track of the bakery goods, she may find herself binging more frequently, etc.

      You're on the right track noting that within the progressed Ascendant cycle, there are different phases. By hindsight, it's useful for older people looking back, writing memoirs.  For client work, it's useful for looking ahead a couple years, noting a new interest is coming.

      Happy that you have a new progression, perfect timing for the onlilne seminar! 


      Yes, Fire is very stimulating, I've been enjoying my first few years with Leo Rising.

  • I thought I would upload my natal chart for interest... Can't show the progressed one though as used to do that

    Chart for Emma Sunerton-Burl355.pdf


      I looked at the chart you posted. The 4th House planets describe your early life and childhood. Yes! You did have a great deal of justifiable anger and rebellious energy! That was a horrible situation.

      You ask about the spiritual (esoteric) Ruler. You would have experienced yours when you began therapy. Do you happen to remember the age you were at that time? It would be intersting to find the Ascendant degree; to see if there was a contact between the progressed Ascendant and a Natal planet that year. 

      Sometimes the nature of the Natal planet that the Ascendant contacted describes the obstacle, the person or frustrating situation blocking the path to your goal at that time.

      Probably there was an issue with a difficult person or situation around the time you embarked on your inner journey.  Maybe a Fixed Sign who wouldn't budge? Fixity tends to attract Fixity till the art of compromise is mastered.The experience can feel like stones rubbing against each other, wearing down the rough spots.

      At the time the Vulcan rpocess begins, Taurus Rising usually thinks,"I want X to change so badly, but X refuses.  And there's no way X (or the situation) in the outer world is going to change. I need to understand myself better, and make some adjustments."

       Afterwards,relationships become easier.

      Though there isn't always a contact to a Natal planet, when there is, the nature of that planet may describe the beginning of the alchemical journey to transcendence . What metal are we missing, what qualities do we need? 

      Each planet is associated with a metal.

      Vulcan's process withdraws energy from the outer world, it's a "time out" during which we turn inward to undergo our changes, our "transformation of base metals into gold."

      The medieval alchemists Jung read described Spiritus Mercurius as contained in a bottle, undergoing transformation, and eventually being released  It was definitely a spiritual process, which Vulcan presides over symbolically. Psyche, or Soul, seeks liberation from the limitations of the Ego.

      Some people enter therapy because they're frustrated by a short-term specific issue and emerge fairly quickly from the Forge; others have serious meltdowns and take longer to emerge. 

      I wouldn't want to leave the impression that the process is exclusive to Western therapy, or the impression that astrology can gauge the intensity of the process--how hot it'll get in Vulcan's furnace.

      Several clients have described their experience as coming not from Western psychology, but through life in a community of yogis, Buddhists or a Western monastery overseen by a wise abbot or abbess. Or even, after a period of addiction and bottoming out, with the aid of a wise, experienced AA sponsor.




    • HI Kathleen

      Thanks for your detailed reply...

      I don't understand about how the 4th house planets indicate my childhood - as I don't have planets in my fourth house? I think I am misunderstanding something could you explain what you mean - thanks.

      When I went into therapy my progressed asc was half a degree from mercury the third planet in gemini Is that close enough for this effect? It was a talking therapy :D I would say that my reason for entering therapy was less of a specific situation, but more a sudden realisation it was possible for me to have someone help me with my development. I knew I needed fixing. I know it sounds obvious, but I hadn't really considered it a possibility for me, despite training as a counsellor. I think I always felt deep psychotherapy would be out of my financial abilities, however my therapist did a sliding scale which I was and am very grateful for. I notice too at this time my progressed sun is exactly connected with my natal jupiter in cancer. Expanding my personality?

      Thank you for your comments about Vulcan too - I have looked up a little about it too and am starting to understand it a bit more - also the idea of the ascendant containing the soul purpose, which I hadn't quite grasped. Thank you for all this - it is wonderfully enlightening. 

    • Right you are!  They're in the Fifth, oops. I wasn't looking at the chart when I wrote that, I was thinking about the two Mutable planets at the bottom of your horscope mandala and their connection to your Sun/Mars. Just went back and looked at your chart again, sorry. They anchor the bottom hemisphere (foundation) but not from the 4th

      You are a helping professional who waited awhile for your own processing out of financial concern. This is not unusual for Taurus Rising and it reminds me that it's definitely time for the treasure story. 

      I'll post a couple of hints on the couple's background (they were serfs in Czarist Russia) for everyone tomorrow and then we can all enjoy working with it.

      It's good timing with your contact to Jupiter--yes, expansion of your Vision.  Cancer is Jupiter's Sign of Exaltation.

      On the Ascendant and the Soul Purpose, in esoteric philosophy,  the ruler of the Rising Sign is the ruler of the chart (personality)--not the Sun Sign, though that's also important, particularly in the First Half of Life as we strive to establish ourselves in the outer world.

  • Hi

    Though I am not completely new to astrology I find a lot of this above hard to grasp straight away, however if its ok I will go through and answer the questions that I can relate to in some way and leave the rest for now.

    I have to say it is fascinating and exciting to be looking at this despite my feeling of being on the edge of getting some of it.

    Question One:  has anyone ever had, or known someone who had, an experience of “growing into” the planets in their Identity House?  Or of progressing from Fire to Earth, like Joe, and feeling grounded, ready to “settle down” and marry?

    Yes I can see this in my chart.

    I am taurus asc (24deg) and when I was 4 I entered progressed gemini. The first planet to be contacted by the progressed asc is Mars, a few years later, then the sun and mercury – all in gemini

    I remember being 4 quite well – I started school got on really well at school, loved learning, and I believe talking too as I was often told off for talking too much at that time.

    The contact with mars I am feeling is related to my intense anger with my mother that typified my whole childhood, though I was an extremely 'good' child it did lead to a variety of rebellions after 18 yrs and therapy to clear this. Also this time, throughout my childhood I was intensely analytical of people – how they were, how they got on with each other etc. Despite having no exposure to psychological theory at all. When I found psychological books at age 16 I consumed them, and went on to do a Bsc in Psychology and finally trained as a counsellor in my mid 20's. I would have taken the training into more analytical realms had I had the finances to do so. I did however have psychoanalysis myself around that time which I found very powerful.

    I felt a strong transition after this to a new way of life – as therapy ended I met my partner and married, after a much more free and promiscuous previous time (Gemini?) I wondered whether this was another event on my progressed asc. When I looked up my marriage date I find I move into Cancer about a year before my marriage! And yes life has been very different and I am very different person now to then. More homely, stable in my relationship, focused on being the best mother I can be etc. Though Cancer has been a sign I have felt the least connection with of all the signs, it has felt challenging, and I still am not all that comfortable with the mask of mother, though many would see me as this, and guard my independence quite strongly, no doubt connected to my early experience of the mother, but perhaps too connected with the ideas of progressed asc you present here. I am really looking forward to leo :D but its a long way off yet.

    I don't really understand the esoteric rulers in that I don't know what they each mean or stand for... so can't comment on how that works here.

    I prefer the gemini mask to the cancer one I think – despite there being more pain around at that time. I can relate to taurean asc overall in that I feel though I have changed a lot, change is always a struggle for me – and when I was in the gemini phase, I did feel much more need for secuity than many of my peers at that time, though outwardly it wouldn't appear so. Even now in my mountaineering activities, I like to stay in Wales and have little desire to really travel very far. Homely cancer perhaps...

    I am seen and known as being very organised and even when I was living an outwardly spontaneous life others came ot me to make sure their 'important things' were looked after and remembered.  

    I will leave it there for now and post some more to your questions another day. I hope is the sort of response you were hoping for/expecting - let me know if I missed the point in some way..


    • Thank you! Your response answers the question really well, and will help other beginners understand how the progressed ASC works.   As the very first Natal planet your Gemini progressed Asc contacted was Mars, Mars energy and instincts set the tone for the Gemini progression. You were angry and argumentative about your situation and took action (Mars): you found a productive way to understand and work with the Mars energy. 

      As analyst Robert Johnson would say, you "did your inner work," during the analytical Gemini cycle. Your efforts prepared you to take on Cancer (Mask) responsibilities later. (Johnson wrote a book called Inner Work--it was a term he often used, in the sense that we can read and study, but in the end it's up to us to do the processing.)

      Was sports (exercise) important at all in your childhood? It's a release for Mars' energy. A strong Mars indicates you'll probably continue to exercise all your life and be healthier than sedenatary people.

      Interesting that your prefer the Gemini Mask; you might want to add up the Air planets in your horoscope. If you have several, (30-40% of the planets) they'd have been contacted and brought out in the Gemini years.

      Next you could look at the Water planets which would have come into play, or been integrated into the personalilty, in the Cancer cycle. What percentage of planets are in Water?

      Others do appreciate Natal Taurus Rising qualities! People feel grounded around FIxed Earth.You're  considered very loyal friends. And the Taurus Mask keeps exuding Aphrodite's warmth, even as you progress through other Rising Signs.

      People usually feel comfortable close to home in the Cancer cycle; most aren't as motivated to travel. Ths is one way in which the two Signs, Taurus andCancer, complement each other.

      You'er on the right track!  Keep going.


This reply was deleted.