DIALOGUE

The following is a copy of the live chat that took place during the live panel discussion, "What is Depth Psychology?" hosted by the Depth Psychology Alliance Admin Board. Here, members (and board members) talk amongst themselves during the event and comment on what they're hearing in the video panel discussion. 

You can use the "Chat" feature here on the Alliance anytime by clicking the "Chat" link the top menu bar, or clicking the tab that says "Main Room" at the bottom of your screen. Comments you make in the Main Room will be seen by everyone online in the Alliance site: To chat privately with anyone online, click on their name at the far right tab "Members Online".

Donna May
Looking forward to seeing the video!
7:52 AM
Dr. Brent Potter
Hey Donna! Good to see you here :)
8:00 AM
Donna May
GREAT to see you here, too!
8:01 AM
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Hi Donna, did you log out and back in as a panelist?
Me
hi everyone. You can access the video at Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kqVf6sAZt4

Go watch it now--then come back and join us here and in GoToWebinar at 11:30 am PDT
Sharon DiLeo
Bonnie, I attempted to join webinar and was disconnected twice?

will try again
Dr. Brent Potter
Donna: it was in an email from a few days ago...will forward to u now
Eva Rider
OK! Good to be here with you all!

Hi Donna!
Donna May
Thank you!

I Eva!
Dr. Brent Potter
Donna: Sent

Hey Eva!
:)

Holly Esch
Yikes -- where's the video link?
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kqVf6sAZt4 Go watch it now--then come back and join us here and in GoToWebinar at 11:30 am PDT
Me
For those just to joining us, we are watching the video and then joining go to webinar for the discussion. Here's the link to the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kqVf6sAZt4

Craig-great minds think alike! :)
8:07 AM
Me
Sharon--I hope you got in! If not, maybe close a few windows on your computer if you have several open...Sometimes its an issue of computer memory

See you all for the panel discussion in 4 minutes at 11:30 PDT
8:26 AM
Me
If you're interested, you can read Alliance board member bios at http://www.depthpsychologyalliance.com/page/about-depth-psychology-depth#board
8:27 AM
Eva Rider
Interested in the shift from outer oriented experimental psychology back towards and inner, dare we say Spiritual or Depth oriented approach to understand psychology and the Self?
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Yes. So contrary to the mainstream trend to turn all of psychology into a STEM discipline.
8:29 AM
Holly Esch
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
Eva Rider
;-0
Donna May
:-)
8:35 AM
Sharon DiLeo
Access through phone

nice video; well done
Holly Esch
The best part of the bios is the link to everyone's blogs. I must have a million bookmarks.
8:38 AM
Donna May
Bonnie, I'm here and listening. Sorry it is not working for me to be part of the panel.

Thanks for that feedback Holly!
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Donna, did you try going completely out of gotowebinar and signing back in with yesterday's email link?
Holly Esch
So cool to hear everyone's voices.
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Hi Holly
Holly Esch
Greetings and salutations. Now I have a voice sample to read your posts with. :)
Eva Rider
Hi
Donna May
Eva excited to hear about all your workshops coming up!

James, I concur with Eva - your video is a great addition to help us get the word out about depth psychology. Thank you!
Holly Esch
For me hearing your voices is more exciting than seeing your faces because I "know" you from reading you.
Me
Yes--and to see us too, right?
Holly Esch
Of course. :)
8:43 AM
Holly Esch
When I read you I need to make up a voice for you in my head. When I finally hear your speaking voices it's a pleasant surprise.
8:44 AM
Donna May
My journey with depth psychology was via a 12 Step program. Carl Jung played an instrumental part in the beginnings of Alcoholics Anonymous. I then heard a quote of Carl Jung that pierced my soul: "There is no birth of consciousness without pain."
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Love that quote
Holly Esch
Wow.
8:49 AM
Donna May
I'm loving all of your stories of how you were called to the work.
Me
Brent was reading Freud in 7th grade! Wow!
Eva Rider
Missing you Donna! I hope you can get on.
Dr. Brent Potter
This is great! :)
Donna May
i'm missing you, too (although I can see and hear all of you just fine)!
Sharon DiLeo
I have always tended toward a deeply individualist perspective; long before college. The work of Romanyshyn provided for me a context from which I came to feel validated
8:53 AM
Donna May
Sharon, once I got to Pacifica, Romanyshyn enformed my world view too.
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Romanyshyn was one of my teachers at Pacifica. Loved his grief book.
8:54 AM
Donna May
Linda: Love that: "New Age is really old, old age."
Sharon DiLeo
he was a professor of mine at UD... Before his departure to Pacifica... Things were never the same after he left ..
Eva Rider
Quote by C.G. Jung from The Red Book " The Spirit of the depths took my understanding and all of my knowledge and placed them at the service of the inexplicable and the paradoxical. But the supreme meaning is the path the way and the bridge to what is to come.
8:56 AM
Donna May
Eva, "But the supreme meaning is the path the way and the bridge to what is to come" - beautiful
Eva Rider
It feels as though Dr. Jung is with us .
Sharon DiLeo
I love Horney and Winnecott
Donna May
While at Pacifica, Romanyshyn gave a talk on "Green" - it was extremely powerful. The thing I recall most from that lecture: "we are being called to minister at the deathbed of the planet."
Dr. Brent Potter
Me too, Sharon...they were amazing :)
Holly Esch
I'm making a reading list. :)
Donna May
Holly, that sounds great - I hope you will be posting this here...
8:59 AM
Me
Donna - That Romanyshyn comment on the deathbed of the planet is really powerfl
9:03 AM
Sharon DiLeo
i think that what resonated with me is that Jung viewed everything as both positive and negative;?for example, with complexes... Elementary, I know, but given that we live within a society in which many, if not most, view things in black and white terms....
Craig Chalquist, PhD
The Gnostics were one source that encouraged him in that.
Dr. Brent Potter
Jung was attuned to the Greeks, who didn't engage in binary, moralistic thinking...which is a modern way of taking up the world
Adele Gruber
the essence of shamanism is world as energy, so its only a different language to anima mundi, universal unconscious, image as psyche. It is in that respect that shamanism makes sense in terms of depth psychology. many people take particular old shaman cultures too literally as a way to live....
Dr. Brent Potter
They were both / and (relative to context) rather than either / or
Sharon DiLeo
indeed
9:06 AM
Donna May
James Hillman: "Let us imagine the anima mundi as that paticular soul spark, that seminal image, which offers itself through each thing in its visible form...its availability to imagination, its presence as a psychic reality. Not only animals and plants...but soul is given with each thing, God-given
Holly Esch
It's interesting that as the world becomes more diverse our thinking is becoming more binary.
Donna May
...things of nature and man-made things of the street."
Dr. Brent Potter
Yes and yes, Donna and Holly!
Sharon DiLeo
the binary perspective seems counter-intuitive to critical thinking which, in my opinion should be the outcome of a meaningful education
Dr. Brent Potter
Excellent point, Sharon

binary thinking is the flip side of critical thinking
Sharon DiLeo
i think depth psychology is intertwined with critical thinking, introspection, meta-cognition; whatever label
Dr. Brent Potter
Yes :) :)
Sharon DiLeo
then we get into parenting or lack thereof..
Dr. Brent Potter
yes...haha We think a lot alike...very much agree
Sharon DiLeo
and, what about standardized testing ..?
Donna May
Sharon I think depth psychology is intertwined with all those things you listed, but also recognizes thost things associated with the divine feminine: intuition, the body, the spirit.
Sharon DiLeo
thank you Brent and Craig
Dr. Brent Potter
Y/w :) Glad ur commenting...very much appreciated
Donna May
"Conscious engagement with the numinous and archetypal" - yes!
9:12 AM
Sharon DiLeo
or, as Romanyshyn says 'symptom or dream'
Donna May
"symptom or dream" - yes.
Dr. Brent Potter
Great book. Romanyshyn is from Duquesne and so is able to combine phenomenology and depth psych well :)
Sharon DiLeo
as with Technology
Dr. Brent Potter
Heidegger's work super-informs Roberts'.
Sharon DiLeo
yes, indeed
9:14 AM
Hadley Fitzgerald
If you take the word "consumer" and hear it just a bit differently, it becomes "consume-Her"--as in consumers of the Earth Mother.
Sharon DiLeo
donahue has passed, correct? Love his poetry
Dr. Brent Potter
Yes, he transitioned some years ago
Sharon DiLeo
that is an interesting insight, Hadley
Eva Rider
Yes, He passed in 2008, in his sleep but he left so much behind.
Sharon DiLeo
i never knew the cause; he was young
Eva Rider
i think it was not known. He died in his sleep at age 52.
9:19 AM
Sharon DiLeo
i agree, Eva, he did leave us all with much
9:20 AM
Eva Rider
Yes..he saved my life. :-)
9:21 AM
Donna May
Craig, thanks for reminding us that the early depth psychologists were activists.
Eva Rider
Yes!
Aleksandar Malecic
Moving forward, perhapsemergence of consciousness
Dr. Brent Potter
maybe an emergent psychology
Aleksandar Malecic
brute force vs. individuation
Donna May
"an emergent psychology" - I like that.
Eva Rider
Great - Emergent psychology - Iike that too..
Craig Chalquist, PhD
"A Brief Mythology of Petroleum" - check Google
Sharon DiLeo
activism is a response to one's deep understanding of giving voice to the voiceless; a way through which support is given to the mmarginalized.
Eva Rider
Yes.
Donna May
Beautifully said, Sharon. Giving voice to the voiceless.

Perhaps, too, helping the marginalized honor their own voices and story.
Sharon DiLeo
yes, 'emergence of psychology' Aleksandar
Craig Chalquist, PhD
FOUR THOUSAND MEMBERS
Eva Rider
Yes! Yeah!
Donna May
4,010 members (as of yesterday) - WOO HOO!
Eva Rider
Wow!
9:27 AM
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Available at Pacifica Public Programs: 6-webinar Certificate in Deep Storytelling and Archetypal Activism.
Donna May
Craigm your program sounds wonderful.
Sharon DiLeo
or consciousness.. Yes. Craig offered up emergent psychology.. My mind is swimming :-)
9:30 AM
Donna May
"Learning to talk to extroverts" - yes!
Eva Rider
Craig it does sound fantastic!
Craig Chalquist, PhD
: )
Sharon DiLeo
it is good to have one's feet in both camps..
Donna May
Bonnie, you rock. So grateful that you started the DPA.
Craig Chalquist, PhD
A day before Mother's Day, thinking about my very extraverted mom. Some of it rubbed off, making it possible for me to teach and present. Thanks Mom!
Eva Rider
I second that!
Holly Esch
I'm an extrovert after a beer or two. :P
Sharon DiLeo
i have considered myself as an ambivert
Donna May
lol!
Eva Rider
Thank you Bonnie!
Donna May
(Holly, thanks for the giggle)
Eva Rider
Thank you all! Someday, it would be great if we all good to get together in person. :-)
Sharon DiLeo
LOl
Eva Rider
Conference anyone?
Donna May
Conference! Conference! Conference!
Dr. Brent Potter
Would be awesome :)
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Conference!
Eva Rider
:-)
Donna May
J Paul, so glad you are here and for your comments.
Diane P. Coffey
Thank you. Enjoyed the rich conversations. Bonnie, grateful to you for facilitating.
Sharon DiLeo
thank you, Bonnie and panel...
Eva Rider
Great - the Self as a verb. Brilliance
9:35 AM
Sharon DiLeo
Within the context of this forum, technology is a dream
Eva Rider
Thank you everyone for being here!
9:37 AM
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Cheers
Donna May
Great to be here (even though I couldn't be online via panel).
Dr. Brent Potter
Thanks everyone :) This was great :)
Donna May
:-)
Eva Rider
See you all again soon! :-)
9:38 AM
Holly Esch
Thank you!
Craig Chalquist, PhD
Three cheers for Bonnie's amazing and growing beehive!!!
Me
How exciting this has been! Thank you all!!!
Donna May
Thank you Bonnie!
Hadley Fitzgerald
This was terrific, Bonnie. Thanks so much.
Eva Rider
Wonderful beginning! Thank you Bonnie for spearheading and creating and to everyone who was present! :-)
Donna May
i hope we do more of these interactive events.
Eva Rider
me too!!
Megan Hollingsworth
Thank you, Bonnie!
Eva Rider
I feel your presence Donna. You were very clear but miss seeing your face. :-)
9:44 AM
Me
Thank you so much Donna for tending this space. I wish technology would have complied so we could hear your voice, but next time for sure!
9:45 AM
Donna May
Thank you Eva and Bonnie. Yes, all very odd, very weird. Very wyrrd.