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  • Greetings Christian!  I suspect that there is a difference between "searching for a (existing) myth" and creating a new one! The latter is much more empowering and sticky....Do you also see that MR is alluding to the controllers of the story and that folks can take this away?

  • " . . . the search for a myth represents the disstisfaction with partial and specialized truths." ~ Mark Rothko

  • Willi, you seem to be 'following your bliss', like the rest of us... ;-)

  • Hi Scott - A host of great issues in your words this AM. As a person without training in deep psychology, I believe that I am both free from, and limited to, many folks here. When you say that " I understand exactly how epic religious myths are created..." please realize that I do not understand your POV.  

     

    I readily admit that my journey to you and your colleagues have been more akin to a "mystical visionary experience and spiritual quest." Something that Joseph Campbell Foundations' Stephen Gerringer told me is bliss. Bliss is messy and uncomfortable to me but I embrace it as best as I can and I trek with an open heart with my bag of symbols and myths - naively engineering common ground and illumination.

     

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  • Willi, I understand exactly how epic religious myths are created. You may be able to use that model, to create a myth that suits your purpose.

    1) Fact: There would be no such thing, as the burning bush story, or the myth of Moses the redeemer, without the vision on the mountan of Horeb that started it all off. That vision came from the unconscious. Likewise with Buddism, it would not exist if it were not for Siddhartha's vision under the bohdi tree, which also came from the unconscious, in other words, they didn't consciously make it up. 

    2) Nobody (on this website) is saying myths were created by non-humans. Obviously, the great myths of the past were created by wise men. What is not so well known, is that the great myths were created by wise men, intimately familiar with the mystics visionary experience and spiritual quest, and the different psychological potentials that may or may not spring forth from it, i.e., the 'different levels of illumination', as Joseph Campbell would say. The wise men used symbols and metaphors to describe that experience. 

     

  • CG: "socio-cultural interaction," yes, that's my POV, too...

       

                 -- from an "armchair depth psychologist?!"

  • Unless we understand how myths are created we can't create any, consciously (If we can't create myths, then trying to so will be a fruitless effort).

    It may be the case that 

    Myth elements arise within each of us, from our unconscious,

    The myth elements are woven into a story though socio-cultural interaction.

  • I am god/dess, you are god/dess, everyone is a god/dess; together we are God/dess. We are the creators of myths.

  • Robert Quinn - I just wish you could see my smile. Your spirited "rebuttal"? Is most refreshing. While not a god or goddess, I would have to disagree with the popular assertion that myths are written by non-humans! I have 5 different and documented methods in my tool kit to write myths.

    I strongly agree with you here: "... how we grapple with and are shaped by the process." This is true no matter if we are creating new myths as a solo agent or in community. This process is sacred and alchemical - and rife with new symbols for a new age!
  • I don't think that any of us can create a "NEW!!!" myth. We can probably suggest or throw out some ideas which might then be picked up by others who might do something to them and then let them sit until someone else kicks it or reshapes it a bit. After years and years of this, when it is totally unrecognizable as the idea that we initially started with and having been tried out and reshaped by life and culture and everything else that may come into play in the living of life, then, maybe, a new myth will have been born.

     

    We live in a world where we think that we can do everything. Some things, however, can't be shaped by the hands of the human beast no matter how much we want to think we can. To think otherwise is to try to put ourselves on a seat next to or in place of god or God. And some things cannot be accomplished in a weekend or two. The story of the tower of Babel is one example that warns against this as does the story of Icarus. Also, it seems that once we have the product created, some would want other people to come and flock to it since, in our minds, we had THE  ANSWER. I think this was why Jung once said "Thank God I'm Jung and not a Jungian." 

     

    I don't think that the final product is the important thing here but rather how we grapple with and are shaped by the process. Just consider us all slightly pregnant with many more months before our due date. And as for how long we'll have to be pregnant with this desire for a new global mythology, none of us know. It's not something for which we know the length of the pregnancy. We may not even see the conclusion of the process since we are not gods and goddesses.

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