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Thinking About Fathers in the Middle of the Night

It’s Father’s Day…

A salute?
Perhaps…
No!
Better
A kneel
A curtsy
A lacy veil
For seeing through
To Cynic’s Road
And
That remote
Rigid
Foreign
Desolate
Land of The Fathers
Judith Harte

Here I sit here on Father’s Day reviewing proofs from our recently published book, Images of Soul: Reimagining Astrology. Our book’s central thesis resonates and concurs in part, with those seminal ideas postulated by the late James Hillman, in his magnificent red book, The Soul’s Code.

JamesHillmanReliefSmallIn our little red book, Images of Soul: Reimagining Astrology, co-authored by myself and Marriage, Family Therapist, Evolutionary astrologer, writer, editor and poet, Hadley Fitzgerald, we’ve followed Hillman when he postulates, that each of us is born with a metaphorical acorn that serves as carrier and container of our soul’s codes. To this possibility, Hadley and I have added the notion that also within that container, i.e., horoscope, there is a map and timing mechanism of one’s soul’s code, calling and fate.   The graphic (timing mechanism) on our book’s cover which was discovered online was created by a photographer who photographed an acorn and assembled the tiny timing mechanism, made of antique watch parts, which he then placed within the acorn. The minute Hadley laid eyes on it, she knew the visual image inside that acorn was everything we were in the process of writing about.  Our graphic’s person enclosed the image within a circle and we had the workings of a horoscope!

It is fitting on this Father’s Day, to acknowledge Hillman’s role in our book’s creation and development. After all, his ideas about an acorn-driven theory of fate and soul have not only in-part fertilized and fathered our book’s thesis, but his work has also prompted us to reimagine and amplify our professional lives as astrological psychotherapists in profoundly new and exciting ways.

For the most part, our book finds agreement with Hillman when he postulates, that we each have within us a metaphorical acorn destined to become a particular type of oak tree. As I understand it, this idea functions in tandem metaphorically with the notion that we each have a particular life, or calling designed and meant especially for us.  Hillman notes, that there is a Daimon, or guide in charge of each of each of our destinies. We’ve aligned and analogized our thinking with this notion, added one factor, and offer this as possibility to our readers.  The container and timing mechanism of and for this pattern of destiny is contained within, and symbolized by, one’s birth astrological horoscope, and it’s transits and progressions. This simply means we are enabled then, to study the soul’s movement in and through time.  By studying these astrological indicators of the soul’s movement through time, whether within one astrological counseling session, or the ongoing process of psychotherapy, one may track, conjecture, hypothesize and/or describe the fate and life of one’s soul astropsychologically, in an evolutionary sense, i.e., from lifetime to lifetime, or simply within and during the process of one life at a time.

It is fitting then for me, on this Father’s Day, to again acknowledge Hillman’s role in our book’s development. After all, haven’t his ideas about an acorn-driven theory of fate, in part, fathered our book’s thesis in what for us has been and continues to be, a new and exciting way?

As I write, a feeling of sadness emanates from my heart and feels as if it is about to physically spread over my entire body. I inspect my chest expecting to see a manifestation of some kind of bright, red rash. Despite the increased continued sensation of tingling nothing actual appears on the surface of my skin. My emotional heart tells me that I’ve entered into a state of grief.

“For what or for whom do I grieve,” I ask out loud as if speaking to the air?  The posture of my body crumples. I find and take refuge in the well-cushioned corner of the couch.

I’m flooded with a fusion of grief, loss and gratitude, to and for the world, that has opened inside of and before me.  I am especially aware in this moment of the gratitude I feel for having discovered the exquisitely soulful products of Hillman’s groundbreaking work written and imagined by him during his physical life. And now that he is gone and no longer physically here, I have the good fortune of still being able to partake of the body of work that is now his bequest to us all.

Do I love Jung? Is he eternally brilliant, and amazing? Of course! Seeing through to psyche via Jung’s Collected Works, his Red Book art and text is an experience that I /we may not see the likes of ever again. Sometimes I sit and stare at Jung’s Red Book and could swear I see it moving with a kind of rhythmic pulsation. I can imagine Jung easily. He is the ultimate. I’ve even had imaginal dialogues with him in which he is referred to as psyche’s grandfather!

In contrast, for over twenty-five years I’ve experienced Hillman’s living, physical presence, heard his lectures, read his books over and over from 1979 to the present. I’ve spoken with him, literally and imaginally, even been his dinner partner on one occasion, as a gift given to me by a beloved mutual friend on this friend’s sixtieth birthday! And more recently, as another way of embodying his meaning, I‘ve sculpted Hillman’s face in bas relief, complete with his occasional trade-mark khaki military-style shirt and eye-catching reddish tie, as shown here in this blog. And lastly, sadly, gratefully, I attended the moving memorial so exquisitely orchestrated by his widow Margo Mclean, in Manhattan. Those important, real-life events will remain ever imprinted in my memory.

So why the tears on this Father’s Day weekend? I cannot quite describe what is missing now, other than the obvious, but I’ll take a stab at it. Perhaps it is the alchemy that Hillman’s physical presence on this planet engendered for me that I so miss and that I have transferred onto him as carrier of same. The undercurrent within my psyche of his absence in our world seems to bubble up and overflow every once in a while, until it happens to have landed this year, on what better day, than Father’s Day weekend?

For those conversant with the astrological language: A bit of astrological type and cross match provides reinforcement for my unending loyalty to Hillman’s work:

Astrologically, Hillman’s Chronos/Saturn, i.e., his (astro-mythological father) conjoins my astrological Hermes/ Mercury (teaching/learning – soul guide, communication/Trickster).  Both gods are placed in the in-depth, mysterious, hold on to the bitter end depth psychological sign of Scorpio. This astrological twosome of Chronos/Saturn holding hands tightly with Hermes/Mercury is a configuration that not only deepens any psychological investigation, but in my case, also resides and has its genesis in my own horoscope’s Hades/Pluto’s mysteriously, unrelenting Scorpionic realm. The Hermes person (me) takes direction in terms of her learning, from the Saturn/Chronos astrological father figure, i.e. (Hillman)! One cannot help but ask, what better dynamic then, than to lead, inspire, teach, be shown the ropes and other ways in which to see through to those Hades’ depths out of and from which puer-like images of soul generated by a mythic figure such as (Hermes) emerge? The esteemed author/astrologer/educator Richard Tarnas, might say that I’m in the grip of a major astro/psychological archetypal complex! And… he would be correct!

Yes, this archetypal astrological union of  Father (Saturn) teacher Mercury (Hermes) communicator, & guide of souls, together within the in-depth Scorpionic land of Hades /Pluto satisfies Tarnas’ wonderful definition of the astrological term “archetypal complex” like nobody’s business. And honestly, I wouldn’t have it any other way.

Now, for a bit of plain English translation for those not so astrologically inclined. Hillman’s ideas, words, writing, humor, and originations from the depths, are all metaphorical instruments and manifestations of Hermes. How very lucky am I to be endlessly guided, fathered and taught by these. Hillman was/is my ultimate, Saturnian, senexy, father figure and teacher, with a sprinkling of Puer (eternal youth) thrown in for good seasoning! His Hades-based (Scorpionic), fatherly (Saturnine) ideas/teachings, ignite my own Hermetic, Scorpionic Mercury, allowing for seemingly endless excursions into and out of Hades’/Pluto’s underworld, and Scorpionic realm of soul. For a Scorpio, such as myself, despite or perhaps because, of that exquisite agony, it doesn’t get any better than that!  It is appropriate, then, is it not, to cry occasionally over and during the activation of such psychological depths? Doesn’t it makes sense, that every once in a while, and most especially on Father’s Day, that I, this eternally, psychologically and personally, fatherless daughter currently resisting her way to Cronehood, react to those impulses sent to her from the underworld land of Hades/Pluto?

Astrological images of soul are gifts from the underworld.  They are borne on the wings of dark angels and delivered by the winged god, Hermes/Mercury. They originate from a dream-laden, dark, mysterious, invisible realm and have their origins and being in psychic life. Our engagement with them affords clues to our fate, our calling, our souls. To this time-weary, eccentric, psychotherapist/astrologer, recently referred to in passing by a colleague as “that shrink who sculpts,” these Hillmanian, imaginal gifts by proxy are welcome on Father’s Day or any day.

Judith Harte

Father’s Day – June 21, 2015
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JameHillmanDisplaySmallSculpture: Bas Relief portrait of James Hillman
Soul to the World – Judith Harte – Artist

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At my request, someone emailed me a section from their in process autobiography. Curious and interested, I wanted to sniff the flavor of its essence and writing style. After reading a small, poignant selection of the author’s work, I responded hastily to what I’d read. In my response, I’d used the terms soul print, and soul imprint interchangeably. This term foreign to Ed its author, was frankly upon further reflection, also rather foreign to me. So, when he wrote back asking, “What is a soul print or imprint?” I, prompted and moved by his question, my own curiosity and the concurrent background sounds of a howling coyote enjoying a much coveted kill outside my tiny canyon home, proceeded to offer up an answer!

As so often happens, in unintentional Talmudic style, Ed’s question led to other questions, as my own need to craft a less cavalier, more thoughtful, response and definition of greater depth encompassed me. As I worked to further mine the meaning of the term soul imprint, it became clear that my request to read Ed’s work and his curious question, were unintended gifts.

With the term soul, currently red hot and growing hotter with each day, commercially, collectively and in psycho-spiritual circles, it is no surprise that my use of the phrase, soul print, thrown out so cavalierly by me across the internet miles, clearly warranted, if not further thought, then at the very least, an exploration of greater clarification and depth.

I was interested in following through on this exploration, but my immediate answer to Ed’s request for a clearer definition of the term soul print would have to wait. Or, if not wait, then be further defined by my efforts to seek a clear definition of the term. Not exactly comfortable I’m sure, for the quick response often sought by an Aries! However, I do thank Ed for the provocation, elicited by his question! And so I riffed on it and riffed on it until I felt inklings of the satisfaction that comes with having riffed just long enough so that at the very least, as in the Talmudic tradition, further questions while not completely answered have at least been provoked.

There’s no holding back or denying the impact that being such an integral and intimate part of the terminal ending of a beloved’s only partially lived life, must’ve had upon Ed in his role as caretaker of his terminally ill partner.

I imagine that for Ed, the witnessing of, caring for, and final loss of a piece of himself and of his life, at the very least, qualified as having left a significant soul print in its own right. One might conjecture, that a terminal experience such as that, had penetrated to the very matrix of Ed’s own life and very soul. Yet, a soul print made and left by the hand of a child in wet cement, also conjures the as yet unlived possibility of the kind that only a tiny hand print left by a small child in wet cement might evoke. In fact, both the loss of Ed’s friend and lover, and that of the as yet undeveloped   hand print of a small child may both be considered to be mysterious images of as yet unlived possibilities. One, never to be lived, the other, a tiny, presumably living hand, so very much alive and waiting in life’s wings, for actualization.

Other questions arose within me as I reflected upon and contemplated this notion of soul prints. For example, is the capacity to create and/or to experience the living out and unfolding of soul imprints as given at or with birth carried within the physiological DNA until fleshed out by the experiences of our lives, and of which my friend Ed’s experience is but one example

There is no doubt that it fits as a part of his nature, his autobiography, as well as that of his departed friend. What is one to do with this kind of experience? Ed has certainly personally carried it forward into his life’s work with the dying. Are their different soul imprint questions and issues at different stages of life? How does one live from here on out after a life-changing event? What impact, i,e, soul print/imprint, has, does, or will trauma make upon one’s biography? Poetic? Literal? Psychological? Physiological? Is the impact, if there is one, ever complete in and by its effect(s)? After a powerful experience, is one called upon to take from and give back to life differently? And/or to be in this life more fully, perhaps even more courageously, while allowing and awaiting the unlived, untried, sleeping dimensions of oneself to awaken?

What are psyche’s (soul’s) messages (imprints) in the here and now?  Do they translate only into rich, unique, though often difficult, life experiences? If so, what kind? Will something of value continue to emerge from Ed’s deceased friend, even now while Ed is still alive? Does the living on of their experience continue? If so, how, and where? What is the special facet of the autobiographical imagination that makes this experience, this soul imprint, their soul imprint unique?

Seems to me, for an experience to be and/or to leave a soul print or imprint on and in one’s life, it must fall into at least one or more of the categories listed below:

  1. Must be an integral and necessary part of one’s calling
  2. This calling may be further indentified/articulated in and by the patterns in one’s astrological horoscope such as has been postulated by Hadley Fitzgerald and myself in our recently released publication, Images of Soul: Reimagining Astrology.
  3. The archetypal, astrological horoscope itself, in its entirety, with its various themes, that when taken together become one large soul imprint and/or container out of which smaller soul imprints may be created, lived and when appropriate released into the world?
  4. Possess certain unique qualities, gifts, and/or talents, that like a finger print, belong to, identify and represent only you.
  5. Are any pro, or con, life-altering, life-changing experience or set of experiences that throughout the course of one’s lifetime, could be said to be responsible in-part for the transformation and/or the course of one’s life.

And, then there’s that one final question that occurs to me now, here at the end of this blog:

  1. Is there an aspect of your psyche’s DNA that you would, if given the chance, designate as your eternal soul print or imprint? And if, given the vote, how would you like this imprint to be remembered, and/or identified at the soul level?

JANUARY 16, 2015

Judith Harte, Ph.D., LMFT

Psychotherapist/Marriage/Family Therapist /Archetypal Astrologer/Emerging Sculptress/Author

 

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www.MusingsfromDreamland.wordpress.com

I have recently begun a blog through WordPress for friends, ,patients and others who are not on DPA. However, I intend to feature it on DPA as well. Looking forward to your responses and interfacing with you about this and other things in the near future.

Our book Images of Soul: Reimagining Astrology will be released in Kindle form very soon through Amazon Books. 

I'm loving this crisp, fast, well directed Aries energy looming ahead. At least so far! How about you?

Judie

 

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THE ASTROLOGICAL  HOROSCOPE:

                                                    & HESTIA’S INNER DIVINITY

About a year ago, I noticed some activity within my own horoscope involving Hestia, that mythic, spiritual, virginal, asteroid goddess of the hearth.  Curious, about what this might mean, I researched Hestia’s mythical story, while observing her astrological movement and activity within my own horoscope.  By way of explanation, asteroids, are those astronomical, allegedly less significant points or mythical figures within a horoscope. Don’t be fooled! Their symbolic existence and activity pulls some heavy weight and mighty punches! What I conjectured after careful research, thought and reflection, about Hestia’s place in the hidden spotlight of my own life, was that some emergent, spiritual, inner and/or outer deeply psychological activity, perhaps referencing religious, and/or mythic figures was about to assume center stage.  

 

Hestia did not disappoint. Before too long, a book, entitled Images of Soul-Reimaging Astrology, coauthored by myself and Evolutionary astrologer and Marriage, Family Therapist, Hadley Fitzgerald, began taking shape, and is now available for online purchase through Amazon books.  

 

In our book, Hadley and I, both astrological/psychotherapists, set forth the notion, that each horoscope is driven by a mysterious inner time piece, curiously cloistered within the image of an acorn. The significance of at least half of this metaphorical configuration, that of the acorn’s symbolic value and purpose, is closely akin to central ideas postulated by the late James Hillman, in his groundbreaking best-seller, The Soul’s Code. 1

 

Our book conjectures, that within each horoscope, there lives the metaphorical image of an acorn, inside which, is a mysterious time piece mechanism that contains and drives our soul’s code – our particular path -- and acts as guide, to each person’s life calling.  We hypothesized, that if one were to embrace this notion, one might be afforded a real life, depth understanding of psyche, and the opportunity to consciously embrace their fate and life direction.  We further speculated, that exploring one’s “Soul’s Code,” while guided by a metaphorical acorn, that contains and is driven by the rhythmic pulse of a mysterious, inner time keeper, who is at the ultimate direction of an, angel, or daimon, carried implications for the understanding of both psyche and horoscope. We postulated that horoscope, acorn, timekeeper, and daimon, were reliable, poetic, viable pathways to calling, inspiration and soul.

 

Although Hadley and I each brought our own divergent biases and methods, to our co-authoring experience, we discovered that rather than clashing, our positions were in fact quite complimentary.   Despite our contrasting methods, we were, each in our own way,  inclined to draw upon image as metaphor when working with clients.

 

Now, in this, blog for Depth Psychology Alliance, as I eagerly explore and bring my own biases to the discussion,  I find I am also captured by another factor in this quaternity  consisting of horoscope, acorn, timekeeper and daimon.  And she is, the oh so numinous Hestia, designated by the late James Hillman , as “guardian of our images.”2 I see Hestia’s inner divinity, expertise, and imaginal guardianship, as the prime mover behind the ways in which I imagine the astrological interview and consultation.  I find as I’ve engaged in that  imaginal process that for me, it is, Hestia, who actually is the mythic impetus behind both the acorn and that mysterious, inner astrological timepiece, portrayed on our book’s cover. Hestia’s rhythms, impact, and drive our psycho-mytho-astrological, explorations, and … if one is so inclined, perhaps even our past and present life explorations and unfolding.

 

In short, Hestia navigates, oversees, drives and is the goddess behind the patterns and processes inherent within that map and container of our soul’s codes: the astrological horoscope. This mystical, spiritual, eternally maiden goddess, is the driver of our daimon’s trajectory.  Her signals inform our exquisite inner time pieces, as to when it is just the right time for the next twist, turn and/or resting place in or on, our life’s circuitous journey. I join with my daimon here when I ask: How could I/we not, take our cues from Hestia, this exquisitely silent, wonderfully wise, spiritual goddess of our hearths? 

 

The late James Hillman looked to Hestia as the silent, mythic, archetypal presence, behind psychotherapy and Jungian Analysis.3

Given the premise within my original doctoral thesis that image=psyche=horoscope, it made perfect sense to me, that if Hestia governs “the inner psychic structure,”4 and if, as I’ve just premised that image = psyche = horoscope, then isn’t it reasonable to assume that Hestia is also the mythic, presence behind and within the astrological horoscope? Who better than this silent goddess, who Hillman has referred to as “governing the inner” depths, to act as both prompter and guide, in our own discovery of psyche’s mysterious calling and trajectory? And who, besides Hestia, could sit watch ever so silently over one’s horoscope, acorn and that curious timepiece, whose locus is the exploratory land of a depth archetypal astrology?

 

As it turns out my suspicions that certain types of Hestian activity, might occur with the activation of this asteroid goddesses’ enlivened activity in my own horoscope’s forward movement or progression, were correct. 

 

During this Hestian, surge, I completed two sculptures with archetypal, spiritual and/or visual religious meanings! One piece, entitled Padre di mi Alma, or Father of My Soul, is of a priest and personal friend, and is my first bronze portrait. The other, entitled, Offering, is of an androgynous looking figure, and was already featured in a prior DPA publication.  My personal blog with Word Press, now in the works, will soon feature these and other sculptures in their entirety under the Sculpture heading. 

 

In keeping with this theme of offering, I invite readers to leave any and all of your written offerings and reflections, at what I now  think of as Hestia’s door, imaginal hearth and/or altar. These are my way of gathering others to honor Hestia’s eternal, spiritual flame, in this, and following blogs.  I will make every effort to respond to each and every of your posts. 

9/3/14

 

1 The Soul’s Code

James Hillman Random House, Inc.

New York, NY 10022

 

2,3,4 In: Hestia’s Preposition

Mythic. Figures/ James Hillman

Spring Publications , Inc.

Putnam, Connecticut

 

 

 

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The meeting between lover and beloved is heart to heart, like that between sculptor and model, between hand and stone. When we fall in love we begin to imagine romantically, fiercely, wildly, madly, jealously, with possessive, paranoid intensity. And when we imagine strongly, we begin to fall in love with the images conjured before the heart's eye — as when starting a project, preparing a vacation trip, planning a new house in a different city, swelling with pregnancy. . . . Our imaginations draw us ever more fully into the venture. You can't leave the lab, can't stop buying equipment, reading brochures, imagining names. You are in love because of imagination."
 JAMES HILLMAN The Soul's Code

It’s been a week since I’ve seen the film Her. I don’t feel remotely capable of discussing it, of writing about it, or, dialoguing about it let alone putting fingers to computer keyboard. Yet, it’s captured me. Captured? That is the term isn’t it?

Uh oh! What just happened to my hands and fingers as I write this? It seems they’ve begun to play my computer keys as if they are keys on a piano.  Perhaps it is the song, a romantic Bossa Nova, playing in the background? This favorite version is quite Brazilian and beautifully executed with slowed way down jazz harmonica and band swaying together in an erotic, romantic Bossa Nova. Sorry, but I digress. 

Or, maybe, it isn’t a digression at all, merely a remembering. The song, referring to the romantic warmth of summer, refers me again to Her.  Like the film, it evokes within me, many imagined, seasonal permutations, as it seems to metaphorically embrace the tone, and atmosphere of all four seasons at once.   

 So what about Her? Just who, is she? Must one be conversant with the Jungian vocabulary in order to understand exactly what is meant by the use of the term Anima?  The writer of the script may not have intended Her storyline to have been patterned upon Jung’s notion of an inner and/or contrasexual partner so often referred to in the Jungian world, when speaking of the mysterious process of navigating the worlds of inter and intrapersonal relationship.  It was my understanding, and certainly my experience, after seeing this film, that the storyline in Her demonstrates what might occur, if Jung’s notion of an inner, contrasexual, female, partner, known as Anima were to take up imaginary space and residence on the big screen.

The theme of an imaginary lover, or inner lover, as soul figure, is not new, either in literature, film or Jungian typology. But the extent to which it has been worked through and worked over in this film which stars Joaquin Phoenix, Scarlett Johansen as the voice of the invisible lover, and Amy Adams, as the real-live girl friend, takes the idea of a fantasy or inner lover to new depths.  You’ll notice I did not say to new heights! This film is not about soaring or getting above it all. I don’t want to give too much away, only to say (and this may already be too much) that when Joaquin Phoenix discovers the female voice of the operating system in his computer, a life-altering relationship between them ensues. 

From there I was left with what I can only describe as a profound sense of necessity related to how our images and our imagination act to color and to bridge the psychological aspects of falling in love.  In my view the necessity of everything noted by Hillman, related to the finding, experiencing and living out of love, with and within all the vicissitudes of imagination, were exquisitely captured in this film.

I feel a need and obligation at this point to intervene and say that while this film has an inner figure of the opposite sex in a starring role, one need not have an inner dialogue only, with a contrasexual partner for the experience to be just as relevant.  Same sex love works just fine!

Hillman  speaks of the act of imagining, falling and being in love as a function of  imagination.  In this film, Hillman’s thesis was very clearly articulated.  When one is in imagination, one is moved toward, and more desirous of, love.  And conversely, as this story progresses, His and Her worlds of love and imagination truly become mutually reinforcing systems, that functions ultimately to aid in clearing  a psychological and literal path to the real thing. 

Jung’s magnificent life’s-work made even more sense to me after seeing this powerful film. The process of analysis became that much more relevant and clear. I felt a sense of extreme gratitude to Jung, for my own in-depth ability to access a deeper process of inner dialogue, after only a few hours spent with Her.  With greater clarification I experienced the ways in which relationship to and with figures encountered in the experience of inner dialogue have acted to clarify and illuminate, in depth, my own life and world.  

  Seeing Her, has deepened and clarified my work with images  as clinician and archetypal astrologer in new ways. I‘ve found easier access, and felt experience to that intermediate zone and place where couples so often struggle in their need to achieve greater intimacy.

Conversely, I was also better able to envision and experience that unimaginative, barren, territory that exists when a couple’s time together has run its course.

I’m comforted, when visiting that mysterious, invisible, land of images, to know of the psychological transformation, that transpires, when one imagines, encounters, engages with, and is illuminated by, an exchange with such a captivating soul-figure, as was portrayed simply via dialogue in this curiously interesting film.  

 And, if I haven’t convinced you about the intriguing real life value of such an encounter, then just ask Her!

Judith Harte

January 3, 2014

 

 Hillman, James.  The Soul’s Code:

In Search of Character and Calling

(New York: Random House,147) 1996

 

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Hi Cathy, very sweet description of the upcoming Aries Libra full moon. And I loved that exquisite photo. 

Thanks to you I now have, Buber's I-Thou classic in one hand. And  I've begun a journal of all the qualities that I've always loved/hated in "the other," and one by one am starting to try them on and integrate them as my own! 

Of course I took another peek at the sign on my seventh house cusp in order to be reminded of what I love/hate in others and am now preparing to go through this inventory once and for all........as courageously as (Aries) on the 7th can . And maybe, just maybe, since I have Libra rising and a reversed natural zodiac, I can at least attempt to do so with at least a bit of diplomacy (Libra).  By the way if one knows their horoscope and the sign on the 7th (Libra) house cusp of partners/others, that reclaiming and owning of qualities, archetypes, style and characteristics usually described by the sign  on the cusp of the 7th, carried by and that one loves/hates in the other, is a terrific exercise...Hah..if only!

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