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Ed Koffenberger April 30, 2011 at 2:11pm

As to Moore's work, I haven't visited there in quite awhile, but will as you have brought him into the discussion. Thanks. I see spirit as one manifestation of souling, such as the self being an individual part/spark of the greater Self, yet my emphasis is on the constant motion of such a relationship, something my target group, post-modern Protestant Christianity, has attempted to qualify and then quantify.
Ian Pitt April 30, 2011 at 1:43pm

haven't "the ways spirit and soul are not the same thing" already been made obvious, such as through the work of Thomas Moore, e.g. in 'The Soul's Religion'?

Hmmm...having asked that question, it occurs to me that his and your use of the terms soul and spirit are not the same. So I'll rephrase: is the difference for you between soul and spirit something like that between the sources of the self and the self?
Ed Koffenberger April 30, 2011 at 1:12pm

“Do you not know that our soul is composed of harmony?” – Leonardo da Vinci
Ed Koffenberger April 30, 2011 at 1:09pm

Just got your grace piece.

I truly appreciate your co-mingling of grace and suffering. It the schema I wrote below, I saw suffering as the result of the attempt to experience souling in its fullness, by inviting those energies/forces of souling less "comfortable" to our natural proclivities, both within ourselves and as parts of the souling of the world.
Ed Koffenberger April 30, 2011 at 1:04pm

My title is Re-Souling Christ, Inc.: A critical hermeneutic of post-modern Protestant Christianity. The initial work will be the moving of the term soul from a static noun to the verbal "souling." In that there is no such thing as a body at rest and that the psyche is also in constant motion, I perceive Souling as a constant flow in and out (like breathing) of life. The four focused "petals" of this flower are: thought, feelings, body, spirit - thereby placing spirit as a part of the many manifestations of souling but not its definer. We do not make soul but discover it with most of us preferencing one petal or another, or the space between two petals as our initial touch point to the flow of souling. (Okay, I'm stopping now. Probably TMI, but I thought you might have a sympathetic ear.) :)
Martina Young April 30, 2011 at 12:59pm

I suggest that grace is an embodiment of suffering ("to bear feeling"). Grace abides with compassion -- to bear feeling "with another." 'Becoming' is grace, if the process of becoming is one of 'coming into feeling'; thus 'being' is grace. Grace is.
Martina Young April 30, 2011 at 12:46pm

I am delighted that you have focused in on "grace" Ed; it is a primary research topic for me. Are you saying that your dissertation thesis is . . . distinction(s) between soul and spirit? Rich indeed! Bravo! I am impressed that you find time to blog AND dissertate!

Through what university are you pursuing your studies, and where are you in your process in terms of year?? I am excited for you, this path that you (and many of us) are on. As for me, I have looked to the myths (mytho-religious stories) to enter into a discussion on this clarification. Also, Edward S. Casey's, "Spirit and Soul: Essays in Philosophical Psychology." In my doctoral work, I posit bodily being as locus for experiences of grace and what that may look like from the felt, intuited, imaginal, and dreamed levels, to name a few of the realms of the somatic intellectus.
Ed Koffenberger April 30, 2011 at 9:57am

Your (Martina) mention of grace brings to mind the need for clarity around the importance of suffering in the individuation process on the way or as a response to "grace."
Ed Koffenberger April 30, 2011 at 9:55am

My dissertation will be focused on the ways spirit and soul are not the same thing and how an understanding of this would help clarify, focus, and prioritize many areas (ethics, social justice, devotional practices, etc.) that become "fuzzy" and confusing without such clarity.
Martina Young April 30, 2011 at 8:32am

Oh yes, also ... in all of our thought/actions, we are part of ushering in the new age, in Hindu thought, the Satya Yuga, when humankind is most in touch with its spiritual or god-like nature and lives accordingly. It seems to me that we are faced with consideration of the interfacing of soul and spirit (I presented a paper on a dialogics of this interfacing to the Unitarian Universalist community here in Reno, NV). I take the position that "spirit" and "soul" -- though often used interchangeably -- are perhaps two different aesthetic aspects of human experience.

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