Wendy Adair replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"I'm not a shaman. I didn't believe in any of it until my hypnotherapy training, during which I had some pretty amazing experiences that felt so real and powerful that I chose to believe in them. I consider myself an open minded skeptic. In my…"
Feb 12, 2012
Carol Berzonsky replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Wendy, I think I'd like that. I am, admittedly, a bit skeptical of "neo-shamanism," but also can't deny my personal experiences and would love to chat more---but I don't know how to message or chat here :-)  Do you know?"
Feb 12, 2012
Wendy Adair replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Black panther is my power animal as well. It's very powerful and I can imagine you are feeling grief if panther is leaving you. I think the idea of a ritual to celebrate this "changing of the guard" is wonderful! I wish you all the gratitude,…"
Feb 12, 2012
Carol Berzonsky replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Hi Wendy,
Thanks for your post. In fact, I met the black panther on a shamanic journeying several years ago--before I knew much of depth psychology or even shamanism. We've had a very rich relationship since and it's medicine has been a profound…"
Feb 12, 2012
Wendy Adair replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Hi Carol!
Many of the shamanic systems of belief value presence of animals in dreams (and in waking life). Each animal represents a "medicine," or what the animal represents and is bringing to your life and awareness. Depending on which animal it…"
Feb 12, 2012
Mats Winther replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"You can't reduce a dream image to a symbol, but you can do the opposite. Hillman's standpoint is very, very extreme. People here are too uncritical of him, I think. His "The Soul's Code" is the weirdest, most subjectivistic, literature that I've…"
Feb 8, 2012
Carol Berzonsky replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Hi Kay,
You've done a significant amount of research on my behalf. Thank you for your interest.
I'm well familiar with the symbolism you've described here, particularly the black panther since, as I mentioned earlier, I have a long relationship with…"
Feb 7, 2012
Carol Berzonsky replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"...I accidentally published the reply before I was finished (and before I could fix my ailing keyboard's problems with the letter "y."

Incidentally, the panther in my dream was not a cub, it was just of a small size. I was  a little surprised that…"
Feb 7, 2012
Carol Berzonsky replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Hi Bonnie! Thanks for jumping in and what an interesting contribution you're making. While not familiar with Michael Conforti's ideas of dream patterning, I do tend to adopt a Hillmanian attitude in not reducing a dream image to a symbol. At a…"
Feb 7, 2012
Bonnie Bright replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Hi Carol (and Kay and Mats),
Sorry to come late to the party, but I've read your ongoing exchanges with great interest. I think this is such a rich discussion for a very intriguing dream! I would just add another thought or two if you're open. I'm…"
Feb 7, 2012
Carol Berzonsky replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Dear Kay and Mats,
Jumping back in here after a weekend of other obligations requiring my attention, which may feel a little like going backward for you two since you've obviously continued with some fascinating discussions. But I wanted to at least…"
Feb 6, 2012
Mats Winther replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"Does Eastern psychology regard love as a form of attachment, really? Or is it the same difficulty here, namely that we understand the word differently? As I understand it, the Buddhist Bodhisattvas stay in samsara out of love and compassion, in…"
Feb 5, 2012
Mats Winther replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"I agree that the ego is the root of most misery and woes. The Fall from Grace, when Adam and Eve ate the fruit of knowledge, means the rise of the ego. Before this, prior to becoming self-aware, mankind "knew not death". But, St. Augustine calls the…"
Feb 5, 2012
Mats Winther replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"I'd argue that she isn't attached to the bird because she loves it, so she lets it fly away. Attachment isn't love, is it? I think attachment is about dependency, to have an outlet for one's libido, or it's a question of power. In The Caucasian…"
Feb 5, 2012
Mats Winther replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"It seems to signify the death of the cat, since a white bird that goes to heaven often symbolizes the soul of the deceased. So it could mean the end of a stage in your life during which you have grappled with the unconscious, symbolized by the black…"
Feb 5, 2012
Mats Winther replied to Carol Berzonsky's discussion Shapeshifting dream in The Twilight Zone--Dreamwork
"M-L von Franz says that the spiritual drive is perhaps even more powerful than sexuality, so it is apty symbolized by a Sarcosuchus. As a besides, the story of how they found a complete skeleton of a Sarcosuchus is baffling. The researchers thought…"
Feb 5, 2012
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  • Carol,

    i just read the betsy perluss piece for our eco psych class and it is exactly what you were talking about the othernight, take a look at it and we will talk

    best steve wood
  • Hi Carol. Nice to "see" you in cyberspace. Glad you've joined and looking forward to what's next.
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